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26Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:24 pm

Carl

Carl

All I have to say Juls, is that the world is round and this cycle of arguing would not stop and actually causes us to be unproductive, which doesn't help in a fledgling union, a little information wouldn't hurt, instead of a lot of information, information is $censored$ and we would have to painstakingly assess all of them. It will not be known as the age of discovery without a reason you know, and if we start where it is really the start, this is going to be like this:

Making of Adonia (Science subject; should be discussed in a different thread)
Evolution (Science subject; should be discussed in a different thread)
Ancient Civilizations (Western and Central Althenian Nations only)
European Empires (Western Althenian Nations only)
Dark Ages (Western Althenian Nations only)
Renaissance (Western Althenian Nations only)
Age of Discovery/The Enlightenment (everyone had contribution)
Industrial Revolution (everyone had contribution)
Contemporary Period (everyone had contribution)
Now

Now Compare this to Euphemian and Itzamnan Nations:
Tribal History (includes Aborigines, Mayans, etc.)
Discovery, Colonization
Independence
Contemporary Period

East Althenian/Carreon Nations:
Local/Tribal History
Discovery and contact by the West
Colonization
Independence
Contemporary Period

and Neridean Nations:
Local History
Western Contact and Colonization
Scramble for Africa
Independence
Contemporary Period

See? Aside from local history, which can be easily molded (note, I'm not saying to sever parts of history, I am not saying to completely ignore it, but this is, for me, is the origin of modern world history (NOTE:Universities have a separate course where it actually begins here to start, My professor, which is an expert to this stuff, said beginning here would actually make more sense if you are to start a role play, because it is a catalyst for the subsequent ) to fit this puzzle, this is the first thing that comes out with the majority world, which not quite fair when we begin with the Western Althenian Nations, in which we don't have business with, at all. Neutral

Also this is getting to the point of flaming, so we should stop. Razz 

http://www.the-map-as-history.com/maps/10-age_of_discovery.php this is quite logical and simple, and this is what we should have in the end.

Chris wrote:I feel like Juls is taking a flame war to Carl Razz

At least it's productive and it does set a path which ones to touch and which ones don't. (Everyone has opinions, ya know) Razz

We did dive in it a little too much with the arguing but I think it's time to start on the simplest ones. So, we should begin with a short synopsis of history of your country before this age (this is your idea Juls) Razz


There is a timeline that Naik made somewhere about the history of the Euphemian continent.

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27Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:55 pm

Chris

Chris
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I suggest a Google doc to keep a database.

As for Mitron, it was populated by the Ohcans on Jonota & Osatta Island (collective term, they weren't the exact same tribe) and on the mainland, bounded by mountains, and reaching slightly into Kuyrut, were the Pudgets, a violent group of tribes who basically attacked any not their own.

Good enough? Smile

28Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:48 am

Agunter999


Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)
Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)

Well then who is our Christopher Columbus and which country did he come from ???

29Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:55 am

SimEmirate

SimEmirate
Member (Abbasid and Kwangju)
Member (Abbasid and Kwangju)

Insulo maybe? Razz

30Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:20 am

Chris

Chris
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Technically he was Italian, but the Spaniards were the only ones who would finance and supply him.

31Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:30 pm

Agunter999


Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)
Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)

I mean who should he be from in Adonia not earth Razz

32Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:38 pm

Carl

Carl

I would say Cristoforo Colombo came from Matinenda, because it's comparable to Italy and nearby nations have different ones (unless Sinope would want to say aye) Razz

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33Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:53 pm

Juls

Juls
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Carl wrote:if we start where it is really the start, this is going to be like this:

Making of Adonia (Science subject; should be discussed in a different thread)
Evolution (Science subject; should be discussed in a different thread)
Ancient Civilizations (Western and Central Althenian Nations only)
European Empires (Western Althenian Nations only)
Dark Ages (Western Althenian Nations only)
Renaissance (Western Althenian Nations only)
Age of Discovery/The Enlightenment (everyone had contribution)
Industrial Revolution (everyone had contribution)
Contemporary Period (everyone had contribution)
Now

Now Compare this to Euphemian and Itzamnan Nations:
Tribal History (includes Aborigines, Mayans, etc.)
Discovery, Colonization
Independence
Contemporary Period

East Althenian/Carreon Nations:
Local/Tribal History
Discovery and contact by the West
Colonization
Independence
Contemporary Period

and Neridean Nations:
Local History
Western Contact and Colonization
Scramble for Africa
Independence
Contemporary Period

This seems like a fair and reasonable match plan to me. I'll go with it Carl (bow)

I don't mind anyone using Sinopian explorers during the Age of Discovery as long as it only involves individuals and not the Republic itself.

34Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:21 pm

Chris

Chris
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SKcEvfy--edjTKI_QGdr_STBD_1oLJAi9gypJYWNSpY/edit?usp=sharing

I started a Google doc, put my ideas in. Smile If someone could put the link in the first post, that might help. For now you can only comment, to prevent people from putting every single idea of theirs into the timeline.

35Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty CASE 1 Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:51 am

Carl

Carl

I think we should start with Vasco da Gama and some Insulonian exploration to around Neridea.

Case 1: ([Insulonian] Voyages) before (Vasco da Gama)
Name Proposal: TBA
Funded by: Insulo or a Kingdom on the western shore. Spearheaded by some prince who had tastes in maritime exploration.
Purpose of trip: To perfect the boat known as the caravel. Also to explore the Vassalies and Neridea.

Case 1 Image proposal:
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36Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:55 am

Scotch Moen

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Insulo before Trentannia?

Le Trents seem to have a straighter shot to the Vassalies.

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37Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:00 am

Carl

Carl

It could be due to economical and political reasons. Even though Trent had the straight route, it is still comprised of small kingdoms Razz

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38Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:11 am

Willem

Willem
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Carl wrote:I would say Cristoforo Colombo came from Matinenda, because it's comparable to  Italy and nearby nations have different ones (unless Sinope would want to say aye) Razz

Good joke. Razz

Regarding the Vassalies, I'd been thinking myself about a colonisation by all of the major powers of the time (Insulo, Trentannia, Bruellen etc.) It would be the first colonisation, the first conflict with natives, diseases and so on. It would be an important moment in the economic, political and military future of the nations involved.

My thoughts.

39Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:35 am

Agunter999


Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)
Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)

One of the Bergen countries could have gained a foothold for a bit

40Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:17 am

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
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Member (Folland)

I'd been thinking myself about a colonisation by all of the major powers of the time

One of the Bergen countries could have gained a foothold for a bit

While we're at it, lets say everyone had a piece of the pie at least once.

Not everyone can start out big in history. If it were that way then almost every European country would have had a major colony on North America. Can we try to stay a little bit modest with this.

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41Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:13 am

Carl

Carl

That's why we begin with Vasco da Gama, because there was actually no colonization that took place, and it was a way to perfect the caravel, which will be used in later explorations.

Unless you guys would want to row the entire Dacian Ocean for colonization, that would be more fun. Razz

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42Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:23 pm

Agunter999


Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)
Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)

Mike in all fairness at some point pretty much all European countries did have colonies for a bit so it would be wrong for the majority not have had some action. Then the major nations would have then dominated and taken them all giving the cultures we have today Razz

43Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:54 pm

Juls

Juls
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Member (Sinope)

Well in the history I've written for Sinope, it's already established in my case that Sinope only had a small pie of the whole imperialist colonial agenda around the world and was late to do so. Sinope focused more on its seas than the oceans. Wink

44Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:25 pm

Carl

Carl

Any contradictions to case 1? Or we could work from there? Razz

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45Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:43 pm

Willem

Willem
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I'm fine with it. Razz

46Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:37 am

Agunter999


Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)
Member (Bergenstein & Kallvarde)

Case one is good

47Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:47 pm

Chris

Chris
Member (Mitron)
Member (Mitron)

Where we at now?

48Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:39 pm

Carl

Carl

We are at Case 2, which is basically Vasco Da Gama's journey. I'll prepare a map later so watch out for my post.

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49Project Kenway - Page 2 Empty Re: Project Kenway Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:40 pm

Chris

Chris
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Thank you, Carl. I shall have to go back and read Case 2 (which probably won't happen since I'm busy right now) but let's hope we can get this thread alive again)

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