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I agree with Mike.

So we're abandoning the first 24 pages?  Sorry I've been so absent on this project, so I'm not going to tell anyone what to do.

No, but if it's not big enough it may not instill the fear in the Okanese necessary. They could just say, "That's all they've got?"

How about no bomb at all? Not until we work out the war, then we might need to see how to end the war to end all wars.

No bomb could be just as good, but then if there wasnt a bomb, then it may never have even been developed, and everyone today claiming their country is nuclear armed would be frauds.

Besides have you even seen a nuclear explosion? Even a small yield warhead scares the fuq out of people.

Chris wrote:No, but if it's not big enough it may not instill the fear in the Okanese necessary. They could just say, "That's all they've got?"

We've been over this, its Sanese.  

Anyway, I agree with Mike, there should be no bomb

We don't have to drop a bomb.  But the research still must've existed leading to the creation of nuclear weapons. So there was always a last resort during the war.

An invasion of Okaiken would've been just plain rough. And we seriously need islands in the Cilician.

The lack of islands is quite advantageous for the invasion argument. I mean, the armies would not so probably spread out.

However, the placing of the cities in Okaiken (particularly the big 3 cities of Iban, Toyoshi and Okashi) are located in an inland sea, which makes the invasion tougher. It's tough, but doable and achievable.

If there's no islands, then why would you expand east Carl? West is easier. The islands are why Japan went east. Their expansionist ideals even took them far west, but the islands are the only reason they went east.

Okaiken went east with it's Navy toward the Kuykan Expanse. Those have a $censored$ ton of islands compared to the rest of the Cilician plus they had strategic value being close to the Mainland. I'll leave the true reasoning up to Carl.

So are we officially discussing the non-use of a bomb now? Knowing WW2 era armaments, Shayden would have just shelled Okaiken with a fleet of Battleships for weeks until it surrendered instead of going ashore with troops.

Yeah, but if the Okanese are as tough as the Japs were, no shelling would presumably scare them.

Scare them? They were on the tail end of quitting the war anyway. Some would argue that that bombs did less damage to Japan then an US invasion would.

Seriously guys, the atomic bomb wasn't as "big" as you think it was. I mean don't get me wrong its a big bomb but in the grand scheme of things we could actually do without the bombs. Or at least just one bomb or a smaller bomb. Hell any bomb would scare someone, especially if dropped on a urban region.

Well yes Trevy, but the bomb definitely made up their mind.

Chris wrote:Okanese

Who are they? It's Sanese for the fifteenth time.

We need to work from the start of the war, guys...

We need to look at the outcome too. I'm personally against a clear victory for either side.

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Me too.

I would agree to victories achieved from the war (national technology, military, science, etc.). It could explain the Superpowers.

I don't know, This is the point where Okaiken (Mitoyagi back then) forks away from Real Japan... hence the last blank area of the Okaiken wiki page. I think there could be several options into this, not just bomb Okaiken (remember that 1 month 1 week gap between the last bomb and the Showa Emperor's surrender message? That actually give us an idea that maybe the bomb was not the cause of the end of WW2 after all. After Japan lost Okinawa, the Japanese considered surrendering. Also, we can choose a treaty rather than surrendering, as that would make sense for the next phase of Okaiken's history, which is the Quiet Revolution and the current constitution.

Well, it's very much a far away war with no real moral motivation for you Carl. You guys are thousands of miles away from home in Euphemia. Unless you guys are REALLY fanatical, even then it's hard to have the troops be die hards fighting for the land. Hence more islands, imo.

Sorry, that was kind of off topic.

Shayden and Okaiken arrange a treaty, causing years of friendship.

Are we having a joint occupation? (Mitron, Shayden, Acadia, Folland, Kuyrut)

Also, how about a desert theatre in Abassid?

Occupation of what?

I think he meant Okaiken Will

An occupation of Okaiken.

Oh.