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Declined | Creation of the United Forces

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Accept this proposal as written?

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Daniel

Daniel

UNITED FORCES BILL


To provide for the common defense and welfare of the various nations of the United Sovereign Nations of the World, it is our wish to make provision for the creation of a military force to be known as the United Forces, which shall serve as defenders of our nations, and keepers of the peace.

I: The United Forces shall ideally be composed of people from every USNW member.
II: National participation in United Forces missions is completely optional.
III: Every nation contributing people to the United Forces must send a minimum of five thousand troops.
IV: The United Forces may only be deployed for any purpose with a 70% vote of approval in the International Assembly.
V: Peacekeeping missions may only last a maximum of two years, and further deployment may only be granted with a 70% vote of approval.
VI: Military missions may last as long as is nessecary, but upon completion of their mission, the forces must be withdrawn within six months.
VII: The headquarters of the United Forces shall be located in ___________, _______________
VIII: The USNW Minister of Defense shall be the head of the United Forces.

Guest


Guest

The Government of Escambia will back this bill 100%.

Chip

Chip
Webmaster

The Imperial Kingdom of Posillipo doesn't feel this is needed, so we will not back it and will not take part in the program.

http://www.usnw.net

Guest


Guest

New Chandler will not support this bill nor take part in the program. Like Posillipo, we do not feel this is necessary at the current time, not that it won't be later.

Daniel

Daniel

The Imperial Federal Kingdom of Grand, Belluterra, and Malo supports this bill, and sees a few potential uses for it at present.

Guest


Guest

Daniel wrote:The Imperial Federal Kingdom of Grand, Belluterra, and Malo supports this bill, and sees a few potential uses for it at present.
You proposed it, we know Razz

Daniel

Daniel

You didn't know that I see some potential uses for it right now did ya Razz

alerules22

alerules22
Member (Oxacmela & Balisca)
Member (Oxacmela & Balisca)

The Kingdom of Ruteria supports this bill, but thinks it is not necessary at this moment but possibly will be, and we support the peacekeeping missions.

http://www.usnw.net

Guest


Guest

The Republic of Lisieux supports this bill because although it might not be necessary now, it is better to have it in place than wishing you had it when it did become necessary.

We would also like to have the headquarters lol.

stanislavsoltys

stanislavsoltys
Member (Malinova)
Member (Malinova)

Utrova supports this, it may be necessary at a future date, so may as well start it now.

http://www.freetrojan.gov/obamacare/government-funding.htm

Qorten

Qorten
Member (Ami Confederation)

The Dantanaean Confederation does not support this bill. Cohesion between the USNW-members is tight enough that there will always be members willing to help others if needed without this program that will only cost money.
The current governement of Dantanaea would support a joint training program between willing members.

Guest


Guest

The Republic of Greater Morsco supports this bill. It is possible it will be necessary in future.

Jon

Jon
First Minister (Kaskaskia & Insulo)
First Minister (Kaskaskia & Insulo)

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The Republic of Insulo strongly opposes this bill because it has been shown that international forces are ineffectual, difficult to organize, and and significantly more prone to corruption than national military forces. We strongly believe in the sovereignty of nations and the ability of individual governments to provide assistance if it is requested or deemed a neccesity by due political process. Therefore, we deem that there is no plausible circumstance that demands existence of an International military and peacekeeping force, and if such a force is created forces from Insulo will not participate.

Kurt

Kurt
Admin (Shayden)
Admin (Shayden)

The Commonwealth of Shayden has no comment regarding this bill.

Guest


Guest

The administration of Lisieux questions how an international task force like this is more easily corrupted than a national military. This requires a 70% majority vote from the entire union, while a national military only requires the will of its leader.

Guest


Guest

The Goverment of Escambia backs Lisieux's question and asks the same to the Republic of Insulo. National Military's are more subject to corruption. Like Lisieux pointed out, It would require majority vote to get any action from our "United Forces" Basically keeping it from being corrupt.

Guest


Guest

The United Empire of Isolia supports this bill. An international force will help secure a balance of power among the nations of the world. Also, peacekeeping missions are nice.

Chip

Chip
Webmaster

Declined | Creation of the United Forces Ministryofforeignaffair
That's technically not true, this would be a vote of the representatives appointed by the leader's of the nations, not the nations themselves. In most circumstances an assembly that represents the people of the nation decide when to go to war, not the leader, although it is that way in some cases. As said by Insulo's representative, we believe in strong sovereignty and feel that the partnership between our nations is strong enough that a bureaucracy of this size that will cost much time and money is not required. When has there been a circumstance where something like this has been needed? In all the military crises we've encountered there has been nothing but partnership and aid. Posillipo stands firm in its position of opposition, we do not feel the money, time, and supplies required, not to mention the sacrifice of national forces, is worth spending on this project that is not needed, nor will it be needed. Posillipo would be willing to support alliances, but believes that the creation of an international "peace keeping" force is unnecessary and ineffective.

http://www.usnw.net

Daniel

Daniel

Can this go to voting now?

Chip

Chip
Webmaster

I think some questions still need to be answered but, very well.

http://www.usnw.net

Daniel

Daniel

What questions?

Guest


Guest

We don't have to answer any if this doesn't get passed Razz

Daniel

Daniel

Voted, and I think this should be moved to the voting chamber, otherwise what's the point of having a voting chamber? Razz

Chip

Chip
Webmaster

This has come to a grid lock, would the proposer like this to go to re vote or let it die?

http://www.usnw.net

Daniel

Daniel

Apparently it is no longer a gridlock, but has a majority of voters in favor of letting this pass.

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