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USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement

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1USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:18 am

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement GR451-FLATNO-NUKES-NOW

Members of the Assembly,

Leaders of the Union,

We the people of Folland, citizens of this Union and this planet are coming together to urge the powers of this Adonia to come together for a new era, in which peace of mind from horror that is Nuclear Weapons reigns. 

Folland has been, and proudly continues to be a Non-Nuclear Armed Nation. (N-NAN) As everyone would know, Nuclear weapons are the closest tools Humanity has that are capable of ending life on a mass scale globally. We've experienced this in our city of New Uniden, a city devastated by a Dirty Bombing of it's Port and Downtown. It destroyed much, killed thousands. And yet it wasn't even a fully functioning weapon, which many nations have. We ask the Assembly that an Act be passed that requires all USNW Nations to begin removing their Nuclear Arsenals to the point of complete disarmament, or else be susceptible to scrutiny, criminal charge, or possibly expulsion from the Union.

The terms and guidelines of the Agreement are as follows:

  • All agreeing Nations must begin a steady but undaunted removal of their Nuclear arsenals.
  • Any cease or disruption in the removal of Nuclear weapons will warrant an International investigation.
  • All non-nuclear Nations in the agreement must remain non-nuclear indefinitely.
  • The rate of disarmament is up to the individual nation's to decide.
  • Agreeing to and then failing to disarm will be subject to the full jurisdiction of the International Assembly.


Signed,
Members of the Folland Delegation,
June 16th, 2013CE


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Agreeing Signatories:
Folland
Matinenda
Mitron



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2USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:28 am

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

This is not legal under Acadia's constitution; the Armed Forces, weapons, and Acadian Stockpile is under strict control of the Government.  It is unlawful for any power to intervene in anything Arms-Related in Acadia for the purpose of national security.  In order for a law like this to function in Acadia, the Federal Assembly must first ratify it.  The Armed Forces of Acadia are not under the jurisdiction of the USNW International Assembly.  Acadia respectfully refuses to comply with any non-nuclear terms.

3USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:50 am

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

Hug a tree man, seriously. War monger. Razz

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4USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:11 am

Kurt

Kurt
Admin (Shayden)
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Shayden as well will have to refuse this proposal. The complete dismantlement of nuclear weapons may cause other nations to create and detonate nuclear weapons of their own. In a way having nuclear weapons prevents a nuclear threat due to the threat of retaliation.

5USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:28 pm

Carl

Carl

Okaiken will be assessing the proposal and will be expressing its opinion in a press conference.

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6USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:30 pm

kj34

kj34
Member (Paradise)
Member (Paradise)

Paradise is all for this. Mostly because we have never embraced nuclear weapons, having...other ways of getting our message across.

That, and we never had any to begin with Razz

7USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:43 pm

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

I don't think the USNW can really say what weapons countries can and can't have; only the weapons they can and can't use. Razz

8USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:24 pm

Kurt

Kurt
Admin (Shayden)
Admin (Shayden)

Matinenda agrees with this proposal. This is a good initiative to prevent world destruction. 

9USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Chris

Chris
Member (Mitron)
Member (Mitron)

Mitron supports the de-nuclearization of Adonia, but prefers a gradual de-nuclearization of all countries' militaries, versus an outright ban of nuclear weapons.

Mitron also advocates to eventually ban all nuclear weapons, but allow to countries' to keep countermeasures in the case of a nuclear attack. Non-nuclear, of course.

Oh, and Mitron has a few nukes too.

10USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:20 pm

SimEmirate

SimEmirate
Member (Abbasid and Kwangju)
Member (Abbasid and Kwangju)

Abbasid does not support this proposal as we believe nuclear weapons are essential for our self defense, and that getting rid of them will encourage other states to develop them.

11USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:19 pm

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

The Government of Folland thanks the nations of Paradise, Matinenda, and Mitron for their general approval of this endeavour. To clarify, the Act is not claiming an immediate ban, but would institute a gradual reduction in every nation's arsenal, eventually to the point of complete disarmament. A world free of the fear of Nuclear Warfare can and will be achieved by a method other than the infamous M.A.D. ideal. Only when we are free of the weapons will we truly be free of the fear of them.


The Government of Folland would also like to coordinate with international entities in co-developing sophisticated Global Missile Defense Systems to help counteract a possible side effect of Nuclear Disarmament. Having Nuclear Weapons isn't the only method of defending against Nuclear Weapons.

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12USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:40 pm

Chris

Chris
Member (Mitron)
Member (Mitron)

What was the mad thing?

13USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:41 pm

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

Acadia would cooperate with a plan to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons on Adonia, but not completely eliminate them.

Acadia believes the weapons that each nation has is the business of that nation, and not of a larger power, eg. USNW.  Acadia is worried that if this does pass, militant groups and foreign govenments would develop nuclear arms without Adonia's leading powers as a threat.  This would be an upset in the balance of international power and stability.


MAD=Mutual Assured Destruction. Razz "If you nuke me, I nuke you."

14USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:56 pm

Carl

Carl

Okaiken has released its press conference:

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Toshiro Kurosawa wrote:The Imperial Federal Kingdom of Okaiken is governed by the Article 9 of the Sanese Constitution, which means that Okaiken does not have the right to declare belligerency nor maintain land, sea, and air forces. Including in the agreement is the dispossession of  Nuclear Weapons.

Even though the right to own such things has been taken away from our nation, our country has decided that it is best for the nations to not deal with each other's business, nuclear weapons or not. Not only that they are making rifts with your allies, you are also making yourself vulnerable to parties that would want to continue developing weapons. 

There had been way too many instances where the limit/removal of objects did not work. For example, a treaty back in 1924 set considerable limits between battleship tonnage and armaments. However, one of the countries pulled out and continued building capital ships that only made the signatory parties vulnerable to their attack. And they did. A few decades after the treaty was signed, we had the Great Adonian War.

Fear is something that occurs naturally, however, if you face it back first, you might not as well see the whole picture of what is happening. It is up to the responsibility of nations if they want to build it or not, but do not fear a nuclear threat is coming.

As for the co-development of Global Missile Defence Systems, always remember that not all nations will participate. In fact, they will see it as a threat of their national security. If you want to build it, however, build it; If you don't want to, then don't. 

Thank you very much.

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15USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:06 am

alerules22

alerules22
Member (Oxacmela & Balisca)
Member (Oxacmela & Balisca)

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The government of Gamat agrees that every nation should be nuclear weapon free, including Shayden, but we disagree with the fact that the USNW would have the control to tell it's member nations and the nations of Adonia, what weapons to or not to have.


USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Gamat__foreign_affairs2

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16USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:56 am

Chris

Chris
Member (Mitron)
Member (Mitron)

For some reason I always thought Mutual Assured Destruction was the most hilarious thing ever. It puts like no point to nuclear warfare Razz

17USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:13 pm

Carl

Carl

LOL Chris Razz

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18USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:39 pm

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

It's just to scare everyone from pushing the red button. Razz So it seems that a few of us do agree that nuclear weapons are dangerous, but the USNW does not hold the power to dictate what weapons we can and cannot have.

19USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:55 pm

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

Chip (USNW Founder) wrote:The Assembly can pass a resolution, but I'd say it's more like an agreement or pact than an actual law that the nations have to follow. For example, I'm sure some nations in USNW still use other types of execution even though the charter only allows lethal injection and nitrogen asphyxiation. Ultimately it's up to the nation whether or not it wants to follow the resolution.

When I wrote the charter I didn't really believe in world government so I made sure to protect individual nations' sovereignty.

Basically, nations could agree to this, or choose to not participate.  The Charter does not grant power to the International Assembly to decide what weapons each nation can have.

20USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:00 pm

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

I have other means to oppose you...


*COUUGHH* Aghhuh? What, I didn't say anything.

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21USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:43 pm

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

I don't know what that means. Razz But your best move is to change this to an agreement, that is completely optional.

22USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:07 am

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

Original post has been updated.

I took into consideration of your suggestion Jack and I thank you since it sounds more group-friendly.

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23USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:12 am

Jack

Jack
Member (Acadia & Valessia)
Member (Acadia & Valessia)

I like it. Razz If it needs a vote I will vote yes, but Acadia just won't sign the agreement.

24USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:46 am

Chip

Chip
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The Federated Republic of Calibria is not willing to commit to a forced denuclearization at the current time.

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25USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Empty Re: USNW Nuclear Removal Agreement Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:06 pm

Scotch Moen

Scotch Moen
Member (Folland)
Member (Folland)

I move to have this put to a vote, all who vote Yea, will agree to this. All who vote Nea, or Abstain will not be included. Regardless, the agreement will be put into effect if there are more than two agreeing parties.

Be mindful to state if you had agreed or not.

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