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1 The Second Great Adonian War on Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:04 pm

stanislavsoltys

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Since the previous attempt appears to have failed, I have come up with a great new scenario for the second GAW.


Malinovan tank in Kalinogorod, headed for battle on the southern front.

Beginning of the Second Great Adonian War?

22 September, 2015, Leviv, The Malinovan Federation - In June of 2014, the neo-fascist military leadership of Tatra overthrow the government. After the overthrow, the military of Tatra rapidly increased, to the point of almost rivaling the Malinovan Federation's active military. In September of 2015, the Tatran military invaded southern Malinova, claiming the Malinovan government was persecuting and killing off ethnic Tatrans in southern Malinova. The Malinovan Federation immediately starts mobilizing their troops and, since the situation appears to the outside as if the Malinovan Federation started this war, the powers of Adonia start to take sides.

On September 21, 2015, Malinovan and Tatran troops engaged 50 kilometers from Leviv. While Malinovan forces lost many soldiers, Tatran forces lost fewer, and so the future of the war is unknown. Since the Tatran economy is worse than the Malinovan Federation's, the war may lead to a Malinovan victory. However, there are signs of foreign support by other nations on the Tatran side, which may cause a bloody conflict. If other nations' militaries become involved in this war, this may be the start of a Second Great Adonian War.

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The rules are the same as the last attempt:
Scotch Moen wrote:
RULES:

  • NO weapons of mass destruction. Nuclear weapons do unfortunately exist but will NOT be used at all. In the event that a roleplaying nation thinks one may be used during roleplay, it has to be put to a majority vote amongst all participants and it HAS to be a tactical warhead of the smallest yield. If the vote is in favor, the target must NOT be civilian.
  • NO Biological or Chemical weapons, period. No exceptions.
  • NO Godmodding. This is obvious but unfortunately was still rampant in the GAWII RP.
  • NO seemingly unrealistic gains/claims/advances. Armies are indeed very mobile in this day and age however an entire country cannot fall overnight. An all out conventional war is a dragged out, meter by meter war.
  • NO Godmodding your armies. This falls under the above Godmodding rule, but it's still important. Armies in the hundreds of thousands cannot just appear out of nowhere. Think about your assets and deployments realistically.
  • DO NOT make your armies "invincible". Just because you think your military is well equipped and or well trained does not mean you win every single battle. React to each battle realistically and consider the odds no matter the state of your armies. Even the more powerful force can still be defeated.
  • DO NOT Godmod your Special Forces, however use of Special Forces is allowed. Keep in mind using Special Forces still runs the risk of failure. However using them successfully can gain big rewards over your opponent(s). The success or failure of a Special Operation will be determined by a Dice Roll.
  • NO quick victories. Battles can take place over the span of days depending on the size of the forces and if reinforcements are available.
  • Treat your armies like valuable items. Don't just throw away troops to gain a few miles of land. Think about operations carefully and decide your moves based on how costly they will be. 
  • NO instant deployments. It takes time and a safe route to move armies from their home bases to a battlefield. This was also rampant in the GAWII RP. Take into account distance, restricted airspaces ect.
  • (more to be possibly added in discussion)


Let's make this role play fun but realistic. I don't know what sides you guys will take, assuming you will participate, but it'll be very interesting if you decide to take different sides. Hopefully everyone will participate, as I've finally come up with a great scenario for a GAW II.

Everything else mentioned in the last attempt by Mike apply here as well, except for the scenario itself.

Let's have fun, guys, we need some more activity on the website, anyway. Razz

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2 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:36 am

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So, is this a discussion thread or the actual RP thread?

Being an ocean away makes all the difference in our initial reaction to these events. We're hoping it's just a regional conflict and hope to believe diplomacy will eventually dissolve this.



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3 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:37 am

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Actual RP thread.

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4 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:38 am

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The Isterian Alliance has decided for the time being to remain neutral in the current conflict until we get a better idea of the current situation, we would request that the Tartran government share with us the evidence they have collected against the Manilovan Government as we believe that this is the key information, as a precausion we have begun to mobalise our forces with Kallvarde activating conscripts while the other Isterian nations have begun recruitment campaigns. The combined military strength of the alliance could be pivotal in the ear so we hope you understand our current position.

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5 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:13 pm

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The Tatran government asks the Isterian Alliance for assistance in this conflict. The Malinovan Federation has been oppressing the Tatran people since its independence and must be stopped. Not only the Tatran people are at stake, but also the Lechian people are oppressed as well. For this reason, the Isterian Alliance has full reason to assist us in this war of liberation against the Malinovan Federation, which the Federation had started themselves. This goes to all nations on Adonia: the Malinovan Federation has for years oppressed the innocent minorities under its rule, and must be stopped and punished.



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6 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:15 pm

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The Malinovan Federation denies all of these claims completely. The Federation itself is a safe haven for all minorities, even sharing the exact same rights and privileges. Some influential members of the government are even members of some minorities. The Malinovan Federation requests the nations of Adonia to see the truth in this situation.

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7 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:03 pm

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Over the past few hours the Isterian leadership has analysed the detailed evidence that clearly points out that minorities in Malinova has been oppressed, they have not been violently oppressed but in most other ways they suffer. Minorities are victims of Malinoverisation, people are forced to live like Malinovans and not stick to their true culture. To add to this witnesses claim that it was Malinovan tanks that fired upon Tartran forces first.
Isteria however does not support the current undemocratic government of Tartra and would like to make it clear that we do not support Tartra because of their government but because of the harm that it has received.

Becaue of this The Presidents of Lechia and Latkea along with the Kings of Kallvarde and Magyar announce that a new state of war now exists between the Isterian Alliance and the Malinovan Federation

Small scouting sorties both areal and land have been made in Malinova by Lechian forces howevr no more activities have yet occurred, large troop movements and mass mobilisation has begun throughout the Isterian Alliance and waves of public information films have filled the Alliance.

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8 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:53 pm

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I'm not really feeling this one guys. In all respects it feels like a regional dispute on the scale of Russia and Georgia, or India and Pakistan's small skirmishes, and would either play itself out or be mediated into negotiations.

Also Agunter you seriously need to get on creating some kind of background for that Alliance, even a short Wiki article or something because not only are you the only forum user in it but everyone else knows nothing about it past it's name.

Edit: I stand corrected.



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9 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:04 pm

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Actually mike I have a wiki page, not too short so if you actually bothered to look, then maybe you never know,

your dead war stuff is only regional too and the same issue applies, to make it global a major power supports one side and another supports the other

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10 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:18 pm

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The Malinovan Federation feels the Isterian Alliance has made a terrible mistake believing the Tatran government, and declares a full state of war against the Alliance.

6 Malinovan regiments have fired upon a group of Alliance groups near the border between the Malinovan Federation and Lechia.

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11 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:30 pm

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Forces at the boarder regions have begun to return attacks but currently hold orders to only hold the line while further movements occur inland. Reports of Dogfights have been made though little confirmed

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12 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:57 pm

Agunter999 wrote:Dogfights

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13 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:02 am

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Teiko was suddenly attacked by Okaiken despite the non-aggression pact between the two countries. Razz

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14 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:59 am

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Lol there has to be a reason and follow the expanding conflict Jmsepe Razz

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15 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:54 am

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BERGENSTEIN NEWS

....In other news a major state of war has erupted in the southern Alcadean regions as the Isterian Alliance officially declares wars on the Malinovan Federation following the attacks on minorities in Malinova. The conflict started a few days ago with Tartran attacks however the conflict has now escalated beyond with the large Isterian Aliance getting involved. The Malinovan Federation could have easily fended off the Tartran attacks but the size of Isteria compared to Malinova just proves how volatile the situation is, lets hear from our Isteria reporter on the outskirts of Donessia in Lechia just west by less than a mile of Malinova.

"Well Julie I cannot show you lots as Lechian officials have warned us to show little of wht is currently ongoing here but I can confirm that standing here I can hear not so distant small arms fire and the odd larger shot presumable either artillery or tanks. Large numbers of the town's population have fleed the city due to fears of safety however as of yet no attacks on the city itself have yet been made. Earlier on today we saw a number of military vehicles pass of which we cannot reveal unless I want to spend the rest of my life in a Lechian military prison"

This war may not at the moment be directly linked to Bergenstein but however in accordance to the 1855 Treaty of Gartenburg we are allied to Kallvarde a member of the Isterian Alliance, here we have a special interview with the Minister of Defence of Bergenstein:

"Yes now what we are seeing here is in fact a volatile situation which has slipped out of control at an horrific speed which is unusual in this modern world. We have been in talks with the Government of Kallvarde recently in which they were looking for a diplomatic solution though were finding it impossible to deal with Malinovan Authorities, The Bergenstein Government has of yet not received and official evidence condemning the Malinovan treatment of minorities however we have asked Kallvarde for copies of such evidence though Kallvarde has officially announced that it does not whish to drag any of it's allies into the war"

But minister what if we were dragged into the war what could it mean for everyday citizens like you and me?

"Well that is a very much a what if situation, Bergenstein soil would not be initially under threat du to the distance between our nation and the war at the moment but that is not a certainty. We would however send a proportion of the Bergen Federal Army and each state would have to contribute in accordance with the Overseas War Act 1978 which would see the deployment of a good proportion of our forces to support the Isterian lines, not that really they actually need any help especially with the very large Lechian defence forces."

Is Bergenstein actually threatened in any way though

"Well that is a difficult question, the war at the moment is very isolated however we must remember that Malinova is very well connected, they have alliances with Sinope which is the dominant power of Althena. Sinope could drag the war in any direction and with their alliance with all the nations surrounding Bergenstein could put Bergenstein in a sticky situation, fortunately we are allied to Abbasid which has their own connections which have the possibility to cause a much greater problem. However that is a very much unlikely path in the modern world where nobody wants an unnecessary war, as long as we stay vigilant we will be ok"

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16 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:18 pm

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It didn't take long for people to infest this topic with non-serious posts.

This is why we can't have nice things.

This is why the forum is dying.

Some of you lot can't keep yourselves from joking around.

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17 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:55 pm

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Really? It's three posts, Mike. Is it really that serious?



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18 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:56 pm

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That was a serious news post actually, embrace it mike and you may actually enjoy it

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19 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:18 pm

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I wasn't talking about you Agunter. I was noting towards Carl and jmsepe's posts.

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20 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:21 pm

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In all fairness to Jmsepe I don't think he really understands this yet Razz

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21 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:27 pm

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I honestly have very little interest for this. So I won't be adding anything else about Shayden's role.

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22 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:59 pm

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Anyone who doesn't want to take part can just be a non combatant Razz

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23 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:07 am

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Meh I thought perhaps Juls may somehow participate, but I know he wouldn't participate in something like this. Malinova versus its neighbors and now possibly Bergenstein? Nope. Malinova has a ton of nukes from the Relastovan Empire, probably will need to use those...

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24 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:16 am

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With due all respect, I was serious about it. I simply failed to add details but that doesn't mean I was just joking around.

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25 Re: The Second Great Adonian War on Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:36 am

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Berg will only get involved if sinope brullen and Batavia do, and the Isterian Alliancevalso has nukes too from relastova

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