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26 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Fri May 02, 2014 7:14 pm

Willem

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jmsepe wrote:Great.

First off, I'm not the one who decided for the location so before complaining have a meeting first with out other members because its confusing me that all of you guys have different opinions.

Second of all, the coat of arms is what I prefer best and good. Will you seriously despise a nation because his seal doesn't suit your taste? What are we doing here? Are we simply judging nations because of their seal and flag or any non-vital stats? Last time I checked there wasn't a requirement for how the seal would look like. Yes I admit, its weird, its something new to you but that doesn't make it bad. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't make that tea bitter. Thanks for the offer but I'd rather stick with my seal and if you by any chance decline my application because of that then I believe I have no hold into you.

Third, wait till you see the history before commenting in my name. Again just because it's new to your eyes or consider redundant, that makes it wrong. No offense but I am not using the cliche Republic of ___ or Empire of ___.

Fourth, dear, you have no idea what is that then why don't you broaden your knowledge. I presume you know what parliamentary is and I presume you also know what Socialism is. Just add them and you get the definition. If you have problems still, there is google.

Again, please don't hit my application because one thing is not looking good or something is jargon to you. Last time I checked, I made an appeal to the requirement list so I am pretty sure whatever I have written there is enough.

I said I am open to change but more than just saying its looks to high-tech or I don't know that, please give me REAL LOGICAL reasons why I should change them otherwise you are just giving a personal whim and as I have said I can satisfy this forum's need but I cannot satisfy all the member's wants.


I agree, there is a lot of confusion around the map, so don't worry so much there.

I don't like the coat of arms, that doesn't mean I dislike the nation. I believe the coat of arms looks tacky and something from a sci-fi movie. It's fine if you wish to keep it, that's totally up to you. I was merely offering my opinion, of a way to possibly improve your nation in my view.

You don't have to use a Republic of, or Kingdom of. Your current name doesn't make sense, something simpler such as Principality of Teiko, or Commonwealth of Teiko would work much better, in my view.

I'm sorry, "dear", but I can clearly see I have more knowledge in the area that you. There's no such thing as a socialistic parliamentary system, as Juls said, it's either a parliamentary democracy with a socialist government or something else entirely.

I'm not saying your application is bad, I'm just pointing out areas I think need improvement, I can see you've put plenty of effort in here, and it would be a shame for it to go to waste.

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27 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Fri May 02, 2014 7:28 pm

jmsepe

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Edited to make things clearer, will add the suggestion discussed at the chat earlier... I do not want my agony to last. I have explained here and there and I want you guys to decide whether it is good or not. I will just sit back and watch. Don't worry nothing is personal. I am happy for the experience this USNW had gave me.

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28 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Fri May 02, 2014 9:17 pm

Oh btw, Sanese = Japanese. Razz

@jmsepe, I suggest to recite the Fuurin Kazan while you are stressed. Stress is always during the application and it dies down after you got accepted.

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29 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 4:59 am

jmsepe

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Hmmm. Waiting for Jon's rendering of the seal, that's the last piece of this application. Please feel free to put it there Jon. Thanks.

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30 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 5:24 am

Agunter999


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This looks lots better, ummm I think the life expectancy is a tad bit high but that isn't one of the required stats so it isn't too much of a big deal.

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31 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 8:17 am

Kurt

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Agreed with Agunter as I stated that yesterday. When I get a chance I'm going to reorganize your application based on the requirements so it is easier for me to understand (Not editing over your work).

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32 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 9:09 am

jmsepe

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Please do.

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33 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 11:00 am

Qorten

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I'm sorry but the political system you describe is communism and communism simply does not work with a multi-party parliamentary system. You either have to chose for a one-party state or for a free market economy rather then a state-owned one.

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34 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 11:14 am

jmsepe

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I'll be honest with you guys here. Although my current political system is very controversial and for some does not exist and is not possible. I beg to differ. Please try to search the net first for articles and researches regarding the system. As much as I want to change it, that is simply not possible. I have already made a lot of adjustments just to fit in here please be considerate.

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35 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 11:27 am

Qorten

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I won't fret over it, but I simply don't see how it would work, this stat)owned economy with multi-party system. When the Liberal Party gets a majority in parliament in the next elections they'll just privatise the economy (or at least, in a real world that's what they would do). If in the next elections the Socialists would gain the upper hand again they'd probably nationalise those industries again, and so on and so forth...

What could work is the Chinese system of communism, where in the Communist Party there are different views. If these people with different views organised themselves in different parties and yet all remain to some extent loyal to the communist ideals then that's a system that could work. It would still mean excluding people that are against communism from politics.

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36 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 11:46 am

jmsepe

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Hmm. Good point Qorten. This has totally caught my attention. Indeed, that will be a major flaw in the governance. As such allow me to create an amendment, all parties shall have socialistic goal despite the difference views and name. Prior to the elections, upon the registration and re-registration of a certain political entity, the commission on elections shall need to verify first the rationale of the political party that it stands in line with the constitution of Teiko that allows only socialistic views.

In this way, it might look like a limited view multi-party system. Yes, there are many parties but all of them have one thing in common and that is their rationale should be legally aligned with Teiko's current constitution.

I believe that a liberal socialistic party is possible so is a democratic socialistic party and the rest. This shall fix the problem.

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37 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 1:16 pm

Agunter999


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Socialism is very different to Communism

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38 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 1:27 pm

jmsepe

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On that note. http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Look at the political system. A socialistic parliamentary is possible and comparing them, communism have one party while it is not stated that socialism must also have the same ideology. However, to address the issue Qorten raised, I still believe that the solution I posted above Agunter's post is a legitimate one. In that way I am able to shoulder the different interests of the political parties.

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39 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 1:30 pm

Juls

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Use proper namings then. Socialistic parliamentary isn't a form of government that exists. Don't mix up government in power, form of government and political system Razz

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40 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 2:06 pm

I have to quote Agunter's claim that the life expectancy is a tad bit high. It's not because his nation is very close to the what I call "The Tiger 4" countries (Peilan, Nanami, Kwangju and Okaiken). In fact its central location within these 4 countries would actually make the country better, since it would act as the main conduit for these countries and actually create a diverse society that this application would see as a great potential. Hence, the quality of life would be much better and it would have adequate, in fact exceeding Japan's number.

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41 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 2:18 pm

Juls

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Its location is irrelevant to its life expectancy. Its social policies and domestic situation matters solely for that Razz

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42 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 2:38 pm

jmsepe

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Then I believe the life expectancy is reasonable for a country where education, health care and social service benefits after retirement tis free. I do not see any other reason why I cannot have that life expectancy.

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43 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 2:45 pm

alerules22

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jmsepe wrote:Then I believe the life expectancy is reasonable for a country where education, health care and social service benefits after retirement tis free. I do not see any other reason why I cannot have that life expectancy.

Cuba has all of that and more for free, it's life expectancy isn't very high as well as it's poverty numbers being extreme.

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44 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 2:49 pm

Juls

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Cuba's life expectancy is 79.13 years, it's the 38th in the world, it's still quite high Razz

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45 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 3:01 pm

Qorten

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I am as of now completely okay with this application: looks great!

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46 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 3:15 pm

jmsepe

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Please check the final form. Im still waiting for Jon's seal though.

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47 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 4:53 pm

alerules22

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After these changes, I support this application.

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48 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 4:59 pm

jmsepe

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Okay, the map has been updated. Thanks Agus for the wonderful islands. TBH, they really look good. We can leave the bygones as bygones now. Razz

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49 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sat May 03, 2014 9:35 pm

Yay Iiban has a neighbor. Razz

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50 Re: Voting | Socialist Republic of Teiko on Sun May 04, 2014 12:26 am

City_Master

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Those islands look great Razz

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