New Conflict on Adonia

So, I know how this whole Bergenstein thing is dividing the union, getting people upset, causing tensions, etc. I understand. I myself am losing faith in this, seeing as it's basically just me, Dan, & Agunter, and no one else. Now, I would love to keep it going, but I am willing to retire it under one condition:
We start a war RP.

I don't care what it is, World War, Iraq-like conflict, civil war, I want to be involved in some kind of war RP with Mitron

So throw out any thoughts, ideas, discussions, etc, down below. Thanks!

LOL more wars.  Yes roleplay is good, but we've still got a lot to do with other stuf.  The GAW discussion is on and off, and not really getting anywhere (my fault).  We had an "Uprising Crisis" that has pretty much died out.  And no one can agree on the Bergenstein war.  I say we better straighten things out first, then go from there.  

Also, a random war involving Euphemia would not be very realistic right now.  Maybe we can talk about a war that involved Mitron in the past, say 60s and 70s?  Your call. 

Dejon had an idea where Allaja (Iraq) invades Abassid on a quest for territory & more oil It's in it's rough stages, but that would involve both of us

And honestly, war is the best way to get activity.

Also, we could start a peace summit. Not even peace, just a summit where each country gets to say something or we talk about stuff, etc.

And what about the Great Pandemic & Loyalist Front? (Bug Kurt time lol)

Loyalist Front I need to restart, though I have been busy. Also the Great Pandemic is a fake RP, so I won't bother with that.

It is a good idea, Chris.  But the problem is, Mitron is in the Euphemian Bloc, so it is possible that Acadia, Shayden, Folland, and Kaskaskia will be dragged into a war that they don't want to fight.  I would suggest you start a new project that is this same idea, but it takes place in the late 90s or something.  I would love to help.

Just to make a note, I personally don't see a country like Mitron getting involved in many, if at all, overseas conflicts. Even Folland is pushing it in that regard, which is why I like to keep most of my roleplay centered on Euphemia.

Jack wrote:It is a good idea, Chris.  But the problem is, Mitron is in the Euphemian Bloc, so it is possible that Acadia, Shayden, Folland, and Kaskaskia will be dragged into a war that they don't want to fight.  I would suggest you start a new project that is this same idea, but it takes place in the late 90s or something.  I would love to help.

Well, in case you don't know, Mitron & Abassid are literally like best buds. I have several military bases there, and with such a close relationship I would naturally aid in their defense. I don't think it'd need to draw in any other Euphemian nations.

And it sucks how we made such a movement to peace instead of war  I want less alliances & charters, and more boom boom!

You could go join in on the UPF, you can have as much boom boom there as you want since it spans a Galaxy.

And who knows, Aliens could attack Adonia.

I want to have wars, but I do understand those restrictions with being a "small" country...which is why I'm moving away from the Berg stuff and towards this Abassidi conflict, where I already have a presence militarily, as well as a strong bond between countries.

Wow wow wow, I would love some more rp but I think we have gone a bit too far to just forget what is happing there. So why not we start an entirely different one but the Bergenstein stuff carries on?

Just, urgh, just no.
There is other kinds of RP than [insert cuss word] war.
Y'all seem to want to RP like some [insert cuss word] [insert cuss word] [insert cuss word] superpowers when you necessarily aren't one at all.
Yes, I [insert cuss word] cuss a lot, but I'm censoring myself here.
You're 'roleplaying' things firtsly [insert cuss word] way too quickly.
A conflict takes a lot of time before happening.
A war doesn't erupt and ends in a few hours for [insert cuss word]'s sake.
If you want a war that badly, [insert cuss word] fine, what about RPing the past?
What about RPing the [insert cuss word] Great Adonian War and finally fixing Adonian global history, eh?
Thoughts?

That was [insert cuss word here] beautiful.

[insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here] [insert cuss word here]. Just my thoughts.

Stop you're gonna make me [insert cuss word here].

Or you can start a war between two non-member countries and tell us about it.
Honestly, most international conflicts arise over something military.
The reason why Adonia's history isn't complete is:
1. A few of you seem to dominate and control what happens.
2. The forum is UNORGANIZED, and simply too many pages to go back and and forth to read.
3. Its tooo much like earth.
4. Ill post more when I think about them.  

Diogenes, honestly we aren't in the real world and if we were wars and any other conflict would span over months, years and even decades. We simply do not have enough time to drag out a conflict while keeping it interesting so yes I can see where they could last a few hours  .

There is no activity because nothing interesting is happening. Come up with another Usong, or Around Adonia and highlight the cultures of everyones nation. Admins need to keep things going in order and constant. If I am involved in something I check this site numerous times a day. Id also recommend a better communication. Send me an actual email letting me know whats going on.

I think this concludes my rant for today.

I tried to do Summer Around Adonia, & Mike tried Winter Around Adonia. I think we need more SC4 showoff competitions so we can get activity up that way too.

Thank you Juls, I entirely agree.  I think we've had enough wars already, let's try to at least finish what we've started.  Let's end conflicts, not make more. D:

trevy wrote:Diogenes, honestly we aren't in the real world

That's not an argument. That's a fact, which everyone knows about, if you refer to Adonia by saying 'we', otherwise we are in the real world, at least we can suppose so. As Adonia is roughly based on Earth, as we have no choice of doing so since we need a real life comparison to do our stuff, it's absolutely normal and adequate to have a real life (Earth) basis. Everything we invent or do is based on stuff we know. And there are links between facts here. As none of us is a professional linguist with a phD, we use real life languages for Adonia. As such, this choice of ours is bringing its complications. Certain languages need to be in certain regions so it can make sense. Most of the basis on Adonia need to make sense. That's the purpose of the "fight for realism", for everything to make sense.

trevy wrote:and if we were wars and any other conflict would span over months, years and even decades. We simply do not have enough time to drag out a conflict while keeping it interesting so yes I can see where they could last a few hours  .

Precisely why war roleplaying is not fun and adequate. It ends up not making sense since everything is done either too quickly or it's done in a realistic amount of time which ends up boring for most people. That's why my proposal of roleplaying the GAW could be a solution for this since we could roleplay it at a good pace (not too quickly, not too long) and therefore feed the urge of some of you to have war roleplay.

trevy wrote:There is no activity because nothing interesting is happening. Come up with another Usong, or Around Adonia and highlight the cultures of everyones nation. Admins need to keep things going in order and constant. If I am involved in something I check this site numerous times a day. Id also recommend a better communication. Send me an actual email letting me know whats going on.

If war RP is done too quickly, we can't keep up, it ends up not making sense and we're all like: wtf is going on, this is [insert cuss word]. (I have the feeling I'm starting a trend here)

There are numerous other options than war RP. Tensions over trade practices, foreign military presence, regional security, regional trade, spying issues, independence movements, politics in general, etc.

For communications, there are many Skype chats (too many of them for my taste). If you are not at ease with using Skype, then, I'm sure we can find alternatives.

There are numerous other options than war RP. -spying issues-

I actually started something like that. Folland was spying on fellow Euphemian Bloc nations. Kurt and Jack no likey that, that much.

I'm also up for other kinds of Roleplay. I can be quite political and ranty about issues other than where my infantry division will strike you next. War is just the quick and easy go-to solution to inactivity, and it's the most easily recognized solution too. It is a bit of a cancer and we should try to initiate other topics to offset this, or else this will be noted as the most war torn year in Adonian history.

I'm glad that I am an idiot who doesn't understand that Adonia is fake, primarily based off of the world. Thank you for pointing that out. And I hope you realized that your alternative options all revolve someway or another around war/military campaigns. And for communication, that is precisely why I suggested emailing. I cant speak for everyone but I know I don't sit on my computer and Skype all day, in fact I am hardly ever on Skype. And lastly you are not starting a trend here. It is actually superfluous and irritating.

trevy wrote:I'm glad that I am an idiot who doesn't understand that Adonia is fake, primarily based off of the world.

If you say so. I know you're using sarcasm, but I won't apologise for something you're apparently misunderstanding. Saying that Adonia isn't Earth does not mean we can be unrealistic.

trevy wrote:Thank you for pointing that out.

I didn't say that, nor do I think that. You're putting words in my mouth.

trevy wrote:And I hope you realized that your alternative options all revolve someway or another around war/military campaigns.

No they don't. War is the last solution to the resolution of a conflict.

trevy wrote:And for communication, that is precisely why I suggested emailing. I cant speak for everyone but I know I don't sit on my computer and Skype all day, in fact I am hardly ever on Skype.

Good for you.

trevy wrote:And lastly you are not starting a trend here. It is actually superfluous and irritating.

One does not simply take jokes, eh?

Enough.  Relax, guys.

Get ready because I'm about to drop that philosophical bomb on ya'l.

So what is the state of international relations?
Is it peace with war, and if so how is war explained.
Or is it war with episodes of peace, and if so how is peace explained.

And since we are talking about "Earth", then how can we describe international relations?
-anarchy? BUT here on 'Adonia' (since I think its a real place  ) is it anarchy since we have the USNW charter?

I'm too blond for this.

trevy wrote:Get ready because I'm about to drop that philosophical bomb on ya'l.

So what is the state of international relations?
Is it peace with war, and if so how is war explained.
Or is it war with episodes of peace, and if so how is peace explained.

And since we are talking about "Earth", then how can we describe international relations?
-anarchy? BUT here on 'Adonia' (since I think its a real place  ) is it anarchy since we have the USNW charter?

I would say, peace with episodes of war. The war is explained by being miniscule (when compared to "Total War") conflicts between two factions or governments. The state of the world would not be considered War with episodes of peace unless conflicts grew into a state of Total War, where Diplomacy has long since passed and one side aims for complete victory over the other. Nothing like that is happening right now, so, we're in a state of peace, with episodes of conflict.

And no, no Anarchy cause we still retain laws for our countries and the USNW charter has laws. When there's laws, there's governance.

I also have a feeling I may have taken your post a tad too seriously.